Posts by Old Navy

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If You Question The Governing Body, You're Like Korah

by pale.emperor in

anyone who questions the governing bodys authority is labelled as an apostate and almost always they bring up the story of korah and his revolt against moses.. watchtower august 1st, 2002, the article loyally submit to godly authority paragraphs 8-15.. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002563.

in not so subtle hint, the gb likens themselves to moses, and those who disagree with the gb are korah.. paragraph 15 is actually quite damaging to the gb's argument though:.

it was so unnecessary for all those people to lose their lives.

Old Navy

Wow!! Great postings and comments all!!

The intensity of the Light which you are shining onto the lies of the GB (G.O.D.) and their creation of men (WTBorg Cult Inc.) is dazzlingly brilliant!

By their actions they (the GB) offer proof that they are enforcing the edicts of their Ruler and Boss, The Adversary. It is quite amazing that their Mind Control Techniques are so effective at blinding the vast majority of "believers." Mindful of how the Pharisees controlled the masses when the Son of Man walked among them.

When a state of fear is sufficiently powerfully induced into the "congregation" it switches off any desire to think freely or to question the chains which restrain them.

How very sad...

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What is the Baptism all about?

by Old Navy in

does the act of baptism make us a "member" of any group or organization?

or, is it something much greater in its purpose?.

when we as former jws came to the truthful conclusion that what the wtborg cult inc. was teaching/preaching was not an accurate representation of the word, many of us decided to look into every nook and cranny to see if we could discover the real truth.

Old Navy

Does the act of Baptism make us a "member" of any group or organization? Or, is it something much greater in its purpose?

When we as former Jws came to the truthful conclusion that what the WTBorg Cult Inc. was teaching/preaching was not an accurate representation of The Word, many of us decided to look into every nook and cranny to see if we could discover the Real Truth. What the WTBorg Cult Inc. teaches isn't completely wrong in that their message does contain some "Truth;" but, sadly, their version of the "Good News" is quite gloomy and fearful and exclusive of the vast majority of humankind.

It has taken me a long time to finally find an explanation of the Baptism and what it means which demonstrates the full depth of our Creator's Love for us all.

When I read these analyses I am overcome with gratitude:

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/09-2017/first-corinthians-15-baptizing-for-the-dead-part-1/

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/09-2017/first-corinthians-15-baptizing-for-the-dead-part-2/

Knowing that ALL will be resurrected and saved is a great relief!

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Jw meeting locator

by Done in

i was born in and a jw for about 40 years, most of it in the same state.

im getting ready to move about an hour away and typed in my possible new zip code to the meeting locator to see who of my past contacts i will possibly run into.. when the locator gives you the list of nearest congos, is congo "a" the one that your address would be "assigned" to?

the congo that works your territory?

Old Navy

Another sign here:

https://postimg.org/image/c9teo8rj9/

Then there is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ5mSaHuBc4

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Jw meeting locator

by Done in

i was born in and a jw for about 40 years, most of it in the same state.

im getting ready to move about an hour away and typed in my possible new zip code to the meeting locator to see who of my past contacts i will possibly run into.. when the locator gives you the list of nearest congos, is congo "a" the one that your address would be "assigned" to?

the congo that works your territory?

Old Navy

No Soliciting or No Trespassing signs are often ignored.

Here are some specific signs/stickers:

http://witforjesus.org/images/stickers/jw/jw-sticker.jpg

http://witforjesus.org/downloads/english/stickers/jw/jw-sticker-labels-5163.pdf

From this web site:

http://www.4witness.org/how-to-stop-visits-by-jehovahs-witness-or-mormons/

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New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

by Danni Jackson in

i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

Old Navy

Quote from Danni Jackson:

...Now I am not really here to change my religion as I did do a lot of research into the 'watchtower' earlier on in my study (some of you may not think I did enough, but I think I am here more to vent- if that's ok?)...
Yeah just looking to vent!
Thank you for being here.

Venting is good and you've done it well!

It's a beginning. There will be more.

Welcome!

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Marrying outside the lord

by label licker in

i should know the answer to this but my memory is failing big time.

our friend just called who is still in the cult.

he's been away from it for about five months now.

Old Navy

What a tragic story!

Tragedy one: getting involved with a heartless, controlling "religion."

Tragedy two: taken advantage of by a heartless operator and accomplices.

Tragedy three: judicial consequences of the Kangaroo Court of the aforementioned "religion."

This is lose, lose, lose all the way around.

Precisely when this very unfortunate "victim" needs support he's in line to get the "shaft."

Weird how to a "believing JW" that Hate = Love in their "Truth" of make believe fantasy.

What a tragic story!

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Folly of claiming “only we have the truth”

by venus in

one’s mindset and its conditioning pursue what one believes to be the “truth” which it says ‘i can perceive with my senses.

this makes possible for the life to be perceived in many different ways.

imagine all were born blind.

Old Navy

Quote from Ever Apostate:

"Only we have the truth" is as Arrogant and ignorant as "I am the only righteous person"

Aye, arrogant and ignorant it is! But, with a purpose of deception. When the lie is continually repeated by those who have authority and perpetuated by those who believe, then the Lie Itself become Truth in their behavior modified thinking. And so the Lie goes on with a membership which has been conditioned by means of intense fear to reject all that doesn't agree with their indoctrination, or else! When they've been made afraid to examine Real Truth the Lie that has been drilled into their heads has no opposition.

We here know the WTBorg Cult Inc. version of their "truth" (or better, "troof") and how difficult it was to de-program from that deception. Fear is a very powerful "motivator to avoid the punishment of straying from the pack." Especially when it is taught by The Cult that those who aren't JWs will be forever destroyed by God Himself in the near future.

For a contrasting view of what is to come:

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/09-2017/first-corinthians-15-the-order-of-resurrection-part-2/

Which makes more sense? Which analysis is more representative of the Love of our Creator?

How is it possible that the WTBorg Cult Inc. has got it so very wrong?

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Be loyal when a relative is disfellowshipped

by UnshackleTheChains in

well.....they showed that shunning video again.

you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.

everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.

Old Navy

Quote from NikL:

In the "Gods Love" book (Gag)
It says... and I quote, "Loyal Christian family members do not look for excuses to have dealings with a disfellowshipped relative not living at home. Rather, loyalty to Jehovah and his organization moves them to uphold the Scriptural arrangement of disfellowshipping."
Possibly the most cultist statement they make.

Well said.

The "Hook" that deepens the "spell/trance"

loyalty to Jehovah and his organization

Followed by the outright lie:

Scriptural arrangement of disfellowshipping

Once those false statements are driven deeply into the fearful minds of the "faithful" the spell/trance becomes hypnotic. The fear felt can be so intense as to be traumatic which has the ability to literally "split the mind" into new "compartments" known as "alters."

That is the secret of truly effective Mind Control which is able to produce a zombie like group who are unquestioningly obedient to every demand of the GB master.

G.O.D. is the typical "cue" or "trigger" used to access the "alters" for additional controls.

Yes, they are well acquainted with the techniques of mind control and know precisely what they are doing. The GB are servants of Satan.

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Robert Jay Lifton Interview

by Lee Elder in

jw
friends

while this interview and book are concerned with donald trump.

you will be able to see many similarities with watchtower officials.

https://www.alternet.org/books/bill-moyers-renowned-psychiatrist-warns-trump-danger-us-all.

Old Navy

The Donald has his flaws to be sure. but Dr. Lifton is working an AGENDA. The United States of America isn't a "democracy" and it hasn't been for a long, long time. We The People of America are enslaved to a Plutocratic Oligarchy driven by the Love of Money. Our "politicians" are mostly crooks who fall within the "mental category" which Dr. Lifton knows much about. The Matrix, American Style, is about as twisted as any society could be. It is a Cult equally as much as the WTBorg Cult Inc. is...

Trump "follows orders" just like each of his predecessors. He is an "actor."

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Special Talks now via video

by AverageJoe1 in

tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?

well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).

here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.

Old Navy

Whenever an organization makes several small changes in procedure which the "faithful" perceive as a "break from tradition" it generally means they're "softening up" the faithful for a Really Big Change in the not too distant future. Probably a major change in doctrine in the coming months.